deeindiana ([info]deeindiana) wrote,
@ 2006-05-12 00:13:00
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Finally! My review of "My Name is Rachel Corrie"
In Hebrew, 'Rachel' means 'ewe'

I'm embarrassed to confess that when I booked my ticket for My Name is Rachel Corrie and Q&A at the Playhouse, I didn't know much about the play. The truth is… *at least having the decency to blush* ... I hoped to see Alan Rickman in person.  (NOTE: Rickman quotes that are taken totally out of context, but seem to slightly relate, are printed in red)  "Who I am gets in the way of the parts I play".


I feel badly about that now. The theater is a powerful vehicle for social and political change. It's possible that MNiRC may spark changes of its own. Plus, the man pours his soul into creating an incredibly original production, and I go into it with the mentality of a hormonal 13-year-old: "Squeeee! I wonder if Alan wears briefs or boxers?" *cringe* "I don't think it's right that everybody knows everything about me."

So, the fact that MNiRC completely distracted me from the whole underpants issue is praise indeed.



I did some research before attending the play, but it quickly became obvious that centuries of conflict couldn’t be crammed into a few weeks of study. I had to find a way to relate to Rachel -- a point of reference.

Unfortunately, it didn’t come from my own college experience. In 1978, I wasn't interested in saving the world unless there was free pizza and really cute boys. (Cut me some slack! Jimmy Carter was president and all was right in the world! *snort*) No...I had to look at Rachel from the view point of a concerned mother.

At the Q&A, I wanted to ask Alan to share his point of reference – how he related to Rachel. He had explained early in the Q&A that his 'antenna' for recognizing a good story is finely tuned. I don't doubt that one bit. But, for most people, a story touches them because they relate to it with their head or their heart. Did Rachel's writings remind Alan of his youth? Did her political views reflect his?  I wanted to ask, but...sitting in the first row sketching his portrait (no photos allowed), I was too shy to raise my hand. Unbelievable...an articulate woman suddenly speechless at the feet of a man. Yes, a handsome fellow, but still...just a man who puts his pants on one leg at a time. *cough – obviously having trouble letting go of the briefs or boxers issue*

Alan said the play is not about politics – it's about Rachel: her dreams, her thoughts, her choices. Was he trying to create a non-political play about a politically saturated person? Was he surprised at the public reaction on both sides of 'the pond'? Did the project take on a life of its own and grow beyond his original vision? "I find myself becoming less and less enamored of public statement - I'd rather see it in action."

ON TO MY UNPROFESSIONAL REVIEW, UNEDUCATED ANALYSIS AND UNIMPORTANT OPINIONS

The play started lightly with Rachel making humorous observations about her life. She analyzed her every action and had a wonderful grasp of how imperfect and ridiculous we all are, and wasn't above laughing at herself (she would’ve made an excellent Cerebral Hen).

It was easy to like the bright, smiling Rachel on stage. Even though the "end of the story" loomed painfully on the horizon, it was possible to forget it for awhile and laugh. The play showed how she threw herself passionately into every projects -- whether it was her obsession for making lists, hours spent gluing things to her walls, or joining a pro-Palestine group.

It was amazing that the entire play runs without an intermission. Dodds seemed to "become" Rachel. I can't imagine the concentration and stamina she has to pull that off. There is an emotional speech at the end that actually brought Dodds to tears. At the Q&A, I wanted to ask her if she cries at that exact moment during every performance. Would that have been a rude question? I was just curious and meant no harm, but I didn’t want to offend.

At the end, they show a clip of the real Rachel, age of 10, reading her award-winning essay on world hunger. The clip is shown on a small TV immediately after Rachel walks out to face the bulldozers. It was a powerful way to bring the story around full circle. The audience was silent and seemed reluctant to break the stillness with applause at the finish.

AFTER THOUGHTS

One thing that struck me: when Dodds came out to take her bow, she seemed shaken. It's been a long time since my college acting days, but I remember that certain roles were hard to shake off. You didn't slip into some characters -- they slipped into you. I wanted to ask Dodds during the Q&A, but that man sitting in front of me...! (NOTE: Does Alan know he is daunting? Polite, charming — and intimidating! But, that’s my own insecurities showing. I remembered being told that when you feel uncomfortable with someone, you should picture them wearing silly underwear to relieve the stress. But, since the briefs/boxer issue was still lingering in my mind, it just didn't seem like a good idea…*snort*)

"We were never going to paint Rachel as a saint or sentimentalize her, but we also needed to face the fact that she'd been demonized. We wanted to present a balanced portrait. The activist part of her life is absolutely matched by the imaginative part of her life. I've no doubt at all that had she lived there would have been novels and plays pouring out of her."

I'm not sure I agree with this prediction. Yes, Rachel's journal was intelligent -- but there are journals on our network equally smart. Yes, her emails were thoughtful – but no more than the ones that arrive in my email box daily.

And yes, Rachel had the courage to stand in front of bulldozers -- but, I think that it takes even more courage to realize that the “martyrs' call” isn't always the most effective way to make change. And it takes a certain level of maturity to recognize that fact of life. I'm not questioning Rachel's compassion, intelligence or her heart— but, the world is not black and white. It's not until you've made some bad choices, voted for someone stupid, slept with a loser, and played on the wrong team a few times that you realize gray is the predominate color.  And, when you choose to support one thing, something else is condemned by your choice.

For my own selfish need-to-know, I wish the play would’ve explained more about the ISM (see the much-debated photos of Rachel). Information about the group is frighteningly extreme. Yes, I know these photos are used by opponents to "demonize" Rachel, but the ISM obviously posed this photo of her for some reason (that's not the camera angle of a casual bystander). Is she burning a handmade American flag? What did she hope to gain? I support our constitutional right to burn the flag in protest, but, I think it’s usually...ineffective. Did she think this image would bring political change? Who was she trying to reach? As a photographer, I KNOW that one powerful photo CAN change the world. But, this is not a powerful photograph.

When I heard Rachel's words on stage, they touched me: "I thought a lot about what you said on the phone about Palestinian violence not helping the situation...What is left for these people? Tell me if you can think of anything. I can't." During the performance, I was swept up in her despair.

But, after walking out of the Playhouse, my attitude changed. As a mother, I wanted to rush back to the theater and shout at Rachel - "Go home, child! You are in way over your head. YOU aren't responsible for fixing a situation that has been centuries in the making. It is arrogance to think that YOU have the right answers for these people. Go home before you get hurt!" But, of course, it was heartbreakingly too late for that.

So, what was Alan's trying to accomplish by creating this play?: Alan seems to like projects that set up highly emotional situations -- and then makes us figure it out for ourselves. I say that with grumbling affection and respect. He seems to be a smart man and likes people who think for themselves. But, when the project is his own creation, it would be nice if he'd say, "Okay...this is what I meant..." I feel like pleading, “Please Alan, I'm not so gullible that hearing your views would negate my own opinion. It would just broaden my understanding of the point that YOU are trying to make too.” But then...I was the woman who booked a ticket while wrestling with the whole underpants issue...so...who the hell am I?

MNiRC reminded me of a time in my life when I thought I had an unlimited reserve of energy, compassion, intelligence —  and luck. But, standing in front of a bulldozer with no protection but the color of my skin and my US citizenship would never have seemed like an effective way to accomplish anything. I came away from the play with a sense of sad futility. And while I’m glad this play acknowledges that a girl named Rachel Corrie lived passionately on this planet for two decades, I'm saddened that she ran out of luck. "You don't always look ahead, but you turn equally to the past. I think of that more and more.”
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[info]spacedlaw
2006-07-05 07:52 am UTC (link)
Well, I do find that post as interesting and thought challenging as it was some months ago.
This time I was particularly touched by what you are reporting of Megan Dodds apparent feelings at the end of the play.
This play being a one woman show running without intermission would get into her system. In addition to being, surely, a totally knackering experience physically, the putting on of such personnality, night after night after night, must be very close to possession. You become that person and since Rachel's experience is rather traumatic, it must be extremely hard to bear.

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[info]fantasteeek
2006-07-05 11:08 am UTC (link)
I came away from the play with perhaps a slightly different viewpoint that maybe I regret not ever having felt strongly about anything like that that I would be able to stand up in front of a bulldozer and object.
In fact if anything I probably would be more likely to do it now than at Rachel's age. I went on my first protest march three years ago and that took some deciding.

""We were never going to paint Rachel as a golden saint or sentimentalize her, but we also needed to face the fact that she'd been demonized."

This demonisation is something that perhaps as a Brit I find more hard to understand. The whole feeling that her behaviour was "Un-American" is perhaps alien to our way of thinking. Maybe that is why there has been so little controversy over the play here in London (and we do have a strong Jewish community as well as Muslim). Again as a Brit I have never got to grips with the "flag-burning" thing either, for goodness sake it's just a poor bit of crayoning on paper, yes I know it's what is is supposed to represent but then again I have never got my head around the whole "allegiance to the flag, my country - right or wrong" thing anyway.

"He seems to get involved with projects that set up highly emotional situations -- and then makes us figure it out for ourselves. "

Well I think you have to accept that that's the way he is and he ain't going to change now!LOL

As the mother of 16 & 19 year old boys I was naturally horrified of the outcome of Rachel's actions but on the other hand I would be enormously proud of them if they had some sort of beliefs that they felt strongly about. (Hmm... do I mean that? Suppose they had beliefs that enabled them to get onto a tube train and kill themselves and fifty other people?? But that maybe is a whole different discussion!)

Thanks for opening this up again and I am sorry I can't be as eloquent as some of your posters.

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[info]deeindiana
2006-07-05 03:00 pm UTC (link)
"that maybe I regret not ever having felt strongly about anything like that that I would be able to stand up in front of a bulldozer and object."

Really? Now that's a feeling that I personally have trouble understanding. I'm sort of a skin-covered container of raging emotions, so I get passionate about...well...almost everything. But, I guess I'm more of a "live to fight another day" kind of person.

BTW - I think you are quite eloquent!

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[info]fantasteeek
2006-07-05 04:39 pm UTC (link)
Well on reflection maybe I just didn't think anything I could do would help so I didn't try. I certainly always have got fired up by stuff on the News and in the papers but never thought that anything I might say or do would make the slightest difference and so just suffered an impotent rage. Now, with age, I can see that you do need to stand up and be counted (even though you still get ignored eg The Big March against the Iraq War)

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[info]deeindiana
2006-07-05 08:04 pm UTC (link)
BTW - My point about the photos of RC wasn't a complaint about the flag burning. I was trying to understand:
Why was she doing it?
Who she was doing it for? (it was obviously a staged photo-op)
What she was hoping to accomplish?
And, trying to find a common ground between the gentle woman as she was portrayed on stage to the expression of the woman in the photos.

I will probably always cringe when I see someone burning a flag -- from any nation -- but I completely support their right to do it.

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[info]fantasteeek
2006-07-05 08:47 pm UTC (link)
It's funny but burning a flag means nothing to me at all - anybody, any nation. Better to burn a flag than tofight somebody.

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[info]veradee
2006-07-05 12:14 pm UTC (link)
I felt similar to [info]fantasteeek when I left the theatre, in the sense of feeling a certain regret that I've never been so enthusiastic about something in my life.

Obviously the play is about politics because RC was a political person. When AR said that it wasn't about politics, I think that he meant that he and Katharine Viner didn't intend to convey any political message. Despite the fact that RC supported the Palestinians, the audience doesn't have to agree with her. The play doesn't brainwash you, but it might offer you another point of view, which you hadn't taken into account beforehand. This was true for me at least.

That's why I rather liked the fact that the background information were rather scarce. It prompted me to find out more about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and question the way it is presented in our daily media and by our politicians.

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[info]adaveen
2006-07-05 01:53 pm UTC (link)
Wow, deep meaty subject for so early in the day. *thumps head, hears rattle*

Alan Rickman really hacks me off when it comes to ambiguity. He may think it's coy and clever, but it's the same reason I throw Henry James across the room (literarilly). Not that it isn't his artistic right. *shrug* He annoys me, whatever his eyecolor, or however foofy his hair.

You're right about the shades of grey - that's all there is and it's all within context. As an American woman who sits somewhere between the "Boomers" and the "Xr's" in a lala land of moral priorities, I've never seen Corrie as having been demonized. Granted, I'm not Jewish, or Palestinian, nor am I involved in this debate. If anything, from my completely neutral corner, I see that they've both made mistakes and neither of them are "right" or "wrong". This is a millenia-long feud of - literally - biblical proportions.

And I did in fact feel that strongly about something to put my life at risk, and that's when I signed up for the military to protect the rights and freedoms of my fellow citizens, so they could continue to have the right to burn the flag. I think that the freedom and right to criticize one's government and to protest its action is what stands between us and complete tyranny. How could I demonize her? She's exactly the sort of person that I signed my life over to protect.

Americans are a little nuts. We're both self-righteous and self-loathing. We are a constant argument in and of ourselves, beating our darker selves with clubs and justifying our worst crimes. We have not evolved peaceable. We have a tendency to wage war on anything we don't like - even if it's something that is within our own characters. That amuses me. Damn straight I'll stand up to protect that kind of schizophrenia. It makes life interesting.

And young people are a bit crazy too. They feel invulnerable. They feel responsible. They feel that the can change the world. And yes, sometimes they can, and they have, and they do. And they change it just as much by surviving to grow old as they do by laying down their lives. Our entire culture is a completely different animal now, because enough children my age grew old enough to change the landscape and change the cultural paradigms. Our rebellion is now "classic". *snork*

My children are still too young for me to see this from a parental view.

There's absolutely no morality question in this whatsoever. Young people protest. Young people take risks. Young people want to change the world. Everything is in fact NOT black and white.

To quote Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, "Someone has to lie in front of the bulldozers."

It's one of the wonderful things about humans, that sometimes their desire to make the world a fair place outstrips their survival instinct, and it's part of what makes us different than animals.

As for country loyalty - our country was built on protest. As we pass our Independence Day, what the hell was it besides people putting their foot down on tyranny and oppression? It's part of our nature, and part of our culture. Americans, I'm led to believe, are ALWAYS sticking their noses into other people's business, from the smallest individual (Rachel) to the largest institution (Department of Defense).

So, what does he want us to think? Who knows, and he's not saying, the bugger. Perhaps he himself doesn't know what to think, but his instinct is fine enough to respond to something in the story and it doesn't run any deeper than that.

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[info]adaveen
2006-07-05 01:54 pm UTC (link)
I myself have often considered the sad state of the world, and sometimes you want to hang the sense of it and just keep yourself occupied. Sometimes you want to start stringing people up.

There ARE alternatives to violence, ask Gandhi.

And we all have our karma or destiny to fulfill, whether it is to change the world by simply surviving in it long enough to gain age and influence, or to be a martyr. I think that's a very personal thing. I can't judge that. And it's an insult to human complexity to have pat answers for every moral dilemma, or every moral choice. People are all about context.

Now, I don't want to go off on a rant here, but I do know one thing: as miserable as I do feel for the oppressed and tyranized and terrorized of the world, I know that here in my own country, children take bags of food home from school so they can eat over the weekend. That sometimes their free lunch is the only decent meal they get all day. That some kids do without the basic necessities, medical care, clean clothing, a safe place to sleep.

I don't think we, as a country, have a right to tell anyone else how to live until we can decently care for our own children.

And I don't think any of us as individuals need to go out save the world, until we clean up our own damn backyard.

Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.

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I don’t want to start a storm...
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2006-07-10 03:02 am UTC (link)
I’ve been in Jerusalem, as a tourist of course, and had the wonderful experience seeing all sides (it was a peaceful time). There are no easy solutions, simple answers, or black and white in that part of the world.

Standing in front of a bulldozer and getting killed (either by accident or deliberate) is at best foolish, at worst being cynically used. I think Rachel was being used. I think she was in someone’s pocket, someone a lot more mature, a lot more clever and a lot more cynical.

At the end, her sacrifice, the same as this play, it’s nothing but a rock thrown in a huge, stormy ocean. A futile gesture because of its simplicity and incomprehension of the fatal complexity of the life and death struggle that the area has been for thousands of years.

Who is that person with so much hate on her face burning a flag? That question might play out in New York in as far as who goes to see the play and who doesn’t.

Berkeley

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[info]deeindiana
2006-07-10 03:05 am UTC (link)
Berkeley -- Was RC "used"? I've heard my father use the term, "cannon fodder". It's what they called the young infantry men who were sent at the front of an attack against the brunt of the defense. Such a gruesome term for such a gruesome thing. Watching the play, I never got that sense that RC was used. But, when I read the ISM press releases and news reports, I DO get an uneasy feeling that someone behind the scenes has their own very personal agenda. I freely acknowledge that I have absolutely no proof for feeling that way. I just do.

Was her actions and death just a "rock thrown in a huge, stormy ocean"? I don't know. I could fall back on the lovely platitude that, 'even a small pebble creates ripples that can be felt around the world'...but, platitudes make me gag. I DO admire her strength and compassion. And I DO know that a single act of courage can make a difference. *shrug* I guess we'll have to wait and see what history makes of RC.

Thanks for joining into the discussion.

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Re: I don’t want to start a storm...
[info]adaveen
2006-07-10 03:14 am UTC (link)
Oh hell - life isn't black or white in ANY part of the world!

No gesture is futile. If you think that way, you may as well just blow your brains out now to save time.

The person with hate on her face burning a flag was a person that got tired of watching children being murdered for some asshole's politics and/or religion. That gets tiresome, watching people live in fear because of institutions/governments/religions. The big ideas are only worthwhile when they serve the little people.

But you see - this is WORLDWIDE. This isn't the only place in the world that little people suffer for "Big Ideas". And hey, I'm all against that. You can't swing a dead cat on this planet without running into a complete doinks. And all you can do about it is to do what you CAN about it. And all you're willing to do about it. Personally, I'm for keeping my part of the world a good and happy place, but I'm a woman with obligations.

The mideast's pain is nothing special, it's just more persistent than most.

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[info]deeindiana
2006-07-10 03:36 am UTC (link)
"No gesture is futile".

Well...I'm not sure I agree with that... I've seen a lot of futile gestures in my time -- also stupid gestures, evil gestures, arrogant gestures, etc. You know what I mean? I'm NOT saying Rachel's gesture was or was not "futile". I'm just disagreeing a bit with your statement. *ducking*

Like I said before -- I completely and utterly support the constitutional right for anyone to burn a flag -- but I will probably always cringe when anyone in ANY country torches a flag, burns an effigy, riots in the streets, rattles swords, clashes shields. I honestly don't know what purpose that serves -- except to provoke a response.

Am I being naive? I'm probably being naive...

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[info]adaveen
2006-07-10 04:03 am UTC (link)
People have to protest bad things happening. Sometimes it's the only way to change things. Doing nothing is a form of assent. Sometimes that takes burning a flag or an effigy. We as a country were born under protest of unfair laws and governance and we took up arms.

No such gesture, against oppression and tyranny is ever futile, even if it's only a pebble in an ocean. It makes an impression, yet. If you think you CAN'T make a difference, then you may as well call it quits. If if the only impression it makes is within your own soul.

Peaceably screaming on the streets and burning a flag is a lot more responsible than dragging people out of their homes and chopping their heads off, but it's takes longer.

Now, personally I think cultures that can't overthrow their own oppressors probably aren't ready for self-governance, yet. And I definitely think that freedom fighters that can't win that freedom without blowing up little kids or hacking off the heads of civilians can't be trusted into the family of modern nations. But screaming on the streets, holding up signs and burning flags is pretty mild by comparison to some methods that have been employed in history.





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[info]deeindiana
2006-07-10 04:47 am UTC (link)
Sorry ada...I'm letting you down. I'm simply not smart enough, passionate enough, brave enough, or informed enough to debate the political side of this the way it deserves. I have a lot more questions than I have answers. Anything else I'd say would just be gut feelings with nothing concrete/sensible to back it up.

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[info]adaveen
2006-07-10 12:33 pm UTC (link)
No you're not - it's emotional thing - which I guess is why it's so hard to solve. And yeah - there ARE more questions than answers.

But how DO you tell a freedom fighter from a terrorist? I'd like to think it's through their methodology rather than their results. You know?

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[info]deeindiana
2006-07-05 07:56 pm UTC (link)
You seem pretty smart for so "early in the day". How many cups of coffee have you had?!

Although Alan does seem to get a devilish look in his eye on occassion, do you really think he is ambiguious about his work just to be "coy"? I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt and believe he's just a natural-born teacher -- who is absolutely infuriating because he won't give a straight answer (I had a professor like that in college. I dated him for three months! *snort*).

"I've never seen Corrie as having been demonized."
Neither have I, BUT...I also haven't met a single person who has even heard of RC. Like we've said before, the average American probably couldn't point the area out on a map, let alone work up enough interest to demonize one young woman. I suppose Alan (along with RC's parents, supporters and the ISM) are referring to the "hate websites" -- but those people are hardly the norm.

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[info]adaveen
2006-07-05 08:26 pm UTC (link)
Well, teh hubs and I talked about it quite a bit when it happened. (Corrie's death, not the play.)

Natural born teacher, natural born pain-in-the-butt. ;) Seriously, it does aggravate me when an artist refuses to take a stand on something, especially their own work. (Note Henry James in the corner.) It's very hard to say, and it's not for me to analyze Alan Rickman, but he does come off coy and ellusive and unwilling to state firmly that he "meant" something. Whether he does it to be coy, or to make people think or because he himself doesn't know "why" or because his personal philosophy is that it take away from the potential meanings - I don't know. I understand the disinclination to pick apart a work of art until there's nothing left, but as you said, throw us a bone, will you?

I haven't SEEN the play - so I can't say. I will have to see it, first. Maybe I will, and maybe I will ask him. *shrug* It depends. I really don't LIKE political plays, so it's hard to get excited about finding a way to see it.

I find that politics is often a matter of "the other hand" until you run out of hands. Like teh man said, I'd really rather just see it in action. I'm not interested in speeches and policy. DO something.



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[info]antisocial_nerd
2006-12-04 06:52 am UTC (link)
The only reason why I can really see Alan being so coy, and firm on the fact that there is no political message in the play is because it'd be a bad choice for his career as it'd open him up for scrutiny... But with that, he'd gain respect from a lot of people for being brave enough on having an opinion. Course, I was impressed when I heard him speak about politics openly... it just seems like opinions are something 'famous people' should avoid having sometimes unless it's something charitable unfortunately.

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[info]antisocial_nerd
2006-12-04 06:48 am UTC (link)
(So unrelated, but you dated one of your profs? Props to you! How'd you pull that off?)

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[info]peeekaboooh
2006-07-05 08:04 pm UTC (link)
When I watched MNiRC October 2005 (My God was it that long ago?) I wasn´t able to get all the spoken words and meanings but I DID share your feeling, I came away from the play with a sense of sadness and loss too. Like you I actually forgot that the main reason I booked a ticket, was to get a glimpse of His Hotness In Person (I didn´t wonder about his knickers though...*cough*) and Megan´s performance made me forget that temporarily.

I can relate to most of what you´ve been pointing out. Before I watched the show I had no vivid imagination about what to expect. After watching it I imagined about what I expected of Alan to have brought into the show. Something about Him, something about His point of view... he did not choose to do that, obviously. But then again, in the end, he always leaves you wanting more...

Thanks for reposting your story. It made me remember mine and it made me smile... just because I was part of showing His creation to the World and just because I was able to watch Him being ... Alan.

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[info]deeindiana
2006-07-06 12:12 am UTC (link)
"After watching it I imagined about what I expected of Alan to have brought into the show. Something about Him, something about His point of view... he did not choose to do that, obviously. But then again, in the end, he always leaves you wanting more..."

That's very true. But, sometimes I'd like him to leave me completed sated and satisfied. (Opps...*coy smile* That sounded like a woman's typical bedroom complaint, didn't it?) But, you know what I mean. When it comes to a project like this, I'd like just a little more.

It WAS really nice to be a part of the "beginning", wasn't it? And to see Alan in person. He was nothing like I imagined.

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[info]nativemoon
2006-07-05 08:33 pm UTC (link)
An abssolutely brilliant essay - and very spot on in may respects

"When the NYC theater pulled the plug on MNiRC, Alan said, "We were never going to paint Rachel as a golden saint or sentimentalize her, but we also needed to face the fact that she'd been demonized. We wanted to present a balanced portrait. The activist part of her life is absolutely matched by the imaginative part of her life. I've no doubt at all that had she lived there would have been novels and plays pouring out of her."

I'm not sure I agree with Alan's prediction. Yes, Rachel's journal was clever -- but I read dozens of online journals that are equally clever. Yes, her emails were thought-provoking – but no more thought-provoking than the exchanges on our own online network. Yes, Rachel had the courage to shove her belongings into a cardboard box and travel around the world to stand in front of bulldozers -- but, sometimes it takes even more courage to realize that the “martyrs' call” isn't always the most effective way.

Rachel was obviously a compassionate woman. I'm not questioning her intelligence, her age, or her heart -- but when you are inexperienced, sometimes the world looks a little too black and white. It's not until you've made some bad choices, slept with a loser, voted for someone stupid, and played on the wrong team a few times that you realize gray is the predominate color. And, when you choose to support one thing, something else is condemned by your choice. "

I think this quote of his - which is much older than the situation with NYC; he said it to some of the papers here in London during the first run - is one thing I also had an issue with. I wont add too much as I think you have summed my own thinking with your thoughtfulness and objectivity. But for me he's seeing Rachel Corrie in a very particular way, as the man who turned her writings into a play because he could, and that I feel colours his thinking. Perhaps with that quote he turns her into something more than what she herself might have seen herself as...or more than she might have actually been... I do think there is a fair amount of idealism here...

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[info]catsplay
2006-07-07 03:24 am UTC (link)
It's taken me more than two days to sit down and write a response to this post, Dee. That bothers me. But what bothers me, is that having to respond to this post makes me uncomfortable. Why? Because it makes me feel stupid. You see, I've lived a life of 45 years avoiding politics. It's embarassing and pathetic, but I avoid even paying attention to most anything political or governmental. Sure, I have a vague idea of what's going on, generally, in American politics (and I do mean vague). But I have absolutely no inkling of understanding of any form of politics, religious conflicts, etc., on the world stage... and I never have.

Yes, I am the typical fat, happy, uninformed American sitting in front of their television watching American Idol and Millionaire. It would probably make Alan Rickman cringe just thinking about me... flipping past the news and changing the channel to Desperate Housewives or The Sopranos. I'm not necessarily proud of it, but having to respond to this post brings this to light.

Despite all this, something strange has been happening to me within the last year. I've discovered Alan Rickman, the actor. And my admiration for him has opened up a whole new world of education for me. It's resulted in me seeking out information on a vast variety of topics -- classical theater, the British culture, film making, Irish history, eighteenth century dress, Jane Austen... and the list goes on, and on, and on.

Who cares, why does this matter, and what does this have to do with My Name is Rachel Corrie? I think, Dee, that one of the questions that you are asking is why Alan Rickman made this play, and what his intentions were. I look at it very simply. Alan Rickman has said time and time again that he is successful if he makes people think with his work. So at the simplest level, he has yet again succeeded, with me, with this work. Was he being politcal? Was he avoiding being political? I really wouldn't even know, as I'm a completely un-political person. All I know is that he HAS made me think.

I have not yet seen the play, but, I will actually be traveling to New York to see it (chalk one up for Rickman). And yes, I purchased the printed version and read Alan's/Viner's assemblage of Rachel's emails (chalk up another one). As I know nothing about the Palestinian conflict, its origin, or its issues, I can really only react to it at the simplest level. I reacted to this story as a mother.

I admired Rachel's convictions, but from my comfy American couch, I felt almost heartless because I could never fathom essentially dedicating my life to a cause, as she did. I couldn't help thinking of my own children, and wondering how Rachel's parents could possibly have allowed her to take such risks. I understand she was a young adult, and maybe I'm controlling, or maybe I can't relate because my children are still at the age when I can control what they do.... but as I read her correspondences, I simply couldn't relate, as her actions and the actions of those around her seemed like nothing I could ever fathom happening with my own children (or should I say nothing I could ever allow to happen, as controlling as that may sound?).

I mean, God Bless her for being so consumed and dedicated to a cause that she chose to take action -- that she wanted to make something happen. That kind of passion is inspirational. I felt amazement that someone would make such sacrifices for their political beliefs. The loss of her life was horribly, horribly tragic. But was it that surprising?

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[info]deeindiana
2006-07-08 04:16 am UTC (link)
I'm not politically savvy either. I'd like to blame it all on the media, but they really do give us what we want. And most Americans like their news in short, neat little bites -- with just a dash of hard information and a lot of Britney Spears (*gag* I'm so sick of her I could blow!).

But I think my main problem is that, when it comes to politics, I'm a natural born fence-walker. It's too easy to see both sides of the issues. Like ada said: I keep thinking, "Yes, THEY are right...but on the other hand THEY are right too..." until I want to just want to throw up all my hands and pop in a movie!

Have you read the script for MNiRC? What did you think of Rachel's writing? Did you think she was as unique as Alan did? I feel like I was too critical in my earlier analysis -- I WAS very touched by her words (spoken by Dodds) during the performance. But I wonder if I was just caught up in "passion of the moment".

Remember that Revolutionary Witness video called "The Preacher"? I remember getting so caught up in Alan's brilliant performance that I was ready to set fire to my couch and march on...well, anywhere! It wasn't until I read the transcript and some of the history of Jacques Rioux that I realised he advocated violence as the only solution -- and then committed suicide the next day. Do I think he was wrong? No...but, on the other hand...yes...

Augh!! Quick, someone pop "Willy Wonka" into the DVD player!

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[info]adaveen
2006-07-17 12:22 am UTC (link)
Did you think she was as unique as Alan did?

I have to say here that sometimes what I TRULY find inspirational and chilling in a piece of writing, is not when it is special, or extraordinary or unique - but when it's universal, when it brings the commonality of all humans into high relief, when it shows vividly just how incredibly the SAME we are, aside from color and nationality and religion. That's when a piece of writing really rips my heart out - when it shows that no, you AREN'T the only one that feels that way.

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[info]catsplay
2006-07-07 03:24 am UTC (link)
*** continued due to space constraint ***

My emotions are mixed regarding Rachel. I think I can best describe my feelings as a mix of respect and bewilderment -- respect for her convictions, but bewilderment regarding her naievity that ultimately led to her death. Further, Rachel's story causes me to cringe a bit when reflecting upon my own life lounging on that couch, a polar opposite from Rachel's, and completely and utterly devoid of that hungry political passion.

It will be very interesting to see how the play itself makes me feel. I do tend to be inspired greatly by experiences (great performances, moving music) more than written words. So I may come away from the play feeling much differently. Bottom line, Rickman made me think. Mission accomplished.

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[info]fantasteeek
2006-07-07 06:16 pm UTC (link)
nothing I could ever allow to happen

Not sure how old your kids are Cats but believe me that time will come very soon and if you do try to "control" them you will do them and yourself a great disservice.

Rickman does seem to have an effect though, doesn't he? He certainly got me back into theatre-going through my trips to Private Lives and opened up various other interests.

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[info]catsplay
2006-07-07 06:18 pm UTC (link)
Yes, I do realize that, Fantasteeek. Right now they are early teens.

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[info]fantasteeek
2006-07-07 06:29 pm UTC (link)
I've got 15 & a 19 year old sons. I don't think I've had any control over the 19 year old from the day he was born!!LOL

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"I don’t want to start a storm..."
(Anonymous)
2006-07-10 02:51 am UTC (link)
I share your doubts at the value of simplistic gestures and do wonder who Rachel really was. The mirror being used to ‘know’ her is very limiting. We meet her through her writings; and, selected writings at that; carefully culled and selected. I understand the pain of her parents. But, she inflicted it on them in the selfish manner typical of a true believer. That selfishness, in itself, turns me off. She was also at the age (we’ve all been there) where ideas come in and get out without a digestive system.

And then, there’s this nagging thought that keeps buzzing in my head. Europeans in general, and the British in particular (there are exceptions, of course) find American political and historical opinion naïve, intellectually unsophisticated, lacking the nuance of history and culture. (This is European opinion, please don’t think it’s mine. I can rat on Europeans because I am one by birth.) That is why I find it strange that a European, and a Briton at that, would take the writings of a young American activist, while he must hold the same opinion as his fellow Brits, and profess such wide eyed ‘wow’ for its views; and then use it for...what?

There is either a lot of cynicism in this or a naiveté unusual for a Briton (I am speaking from a neutral point of view since I have no knowledge of the man other than what I’ve seen on the screen. I don’t know who in the troika — Viner, Megan or Alan - said it, but I found it typical European arrogance telling us that this play should especially be seen in the US; read: ‘by Americans.’ This bit of ‘lecturing’ on how we should be educated the ‘right way’ rankled me.

Tell me if you think I am off on this.

Berkeley

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Re: "I don’t want to start a storm..."
[info]deeindiana
2006-07-10 03:08 am UTC (link)
Yes...the play gives us a very limited view of RC -- just like any play/movie/article offers a thin slice of a life. Because of that, I'd be tempted to think of the play as just an interesting tale about a nameless young woman. But, the only thing Alan has made quite clear is that this IS about RC specifically. So I'm forced to reconcil the differences I see on stage, in print, photos, opinions, news, etc.

It never occurred to me to question a Brit making a play about an American activitist (I don't mean "question" as a, "Who the hell are THEY?". I mean it as, "Hmmm...I wonder why?"). But, I didn't get the feeling from the Q&A that Alan and the others did it as a bludging POLITICAL STATEMENT. *looming black letters* He did say that when he read it in the newspaper, the emotional, personal story touched him as something that would play well on stage -- and I believe that. But it just brings me back full circle to wonder: What is Alan trying to say with this play?

If I could find something to compare it to -- a book or play written for similar reasons -- I'd feel on more secure ground!

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Re: "I don’t want to start a storm..."
[info]adaveen
2006-07-17 12:32 am UTC (link)
Sticking my big American nose in ...

She was also at the age (we’ve all been there) where ideas come in and get out without a digestive system.

Ha! Perhaps this idealistic stage is nature's way of culling our herd, since we have no natural predators any longer. Why does it really have to be more complicated than foolish youth?

but I found it typical European arrogance telling us that this play should especially be seen in the US; read: ‘by Americans.’ This bit of ‘lecturing’ on how we should be educated the ‘right way’ rankled me.

Um - I think you're off on this. Personally, I think the play should have been adapted by an American playwright. Of COURSE this play should be seen in the US - it's about an American doing an extremely "American" thing - and I don't think this has anything to do with how a Briton "thinks" we should be "educated".

Rachel was an American, like many young American's she did something silly and idealistic and went off to save the world. The cause doesn't matter, because causes are all a matter of perspective and every issue has 360° around it from which to view it. Running off idealistically to save the world is something that the youth here do and it's a fine 50+ year tradition in this country. This story belongs to us as a nation and as a culture. It is IN us to protest and to rebel and to question authority.

Of COURSE it needs to be seen here. It needs to be available here. After all, we hold freedom of speech in rather strong regard here. Whether that speech is to burn a flag or show a play about flag burners.

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[info]deeindiana
2006-07-11 05:04 am UTC (link)
In case anyone is still following this thread: here is the link to an article written by Viner (co-editor of MNiRC) in April 2005. She goes into a lot of detail about her feelings for RC's writings and quotes Alan a few times. It's really quite fascinating.

http://www.countercurrents.org/arts-viner090405.htm

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[info]johari_m
2006-12-28 02:08 pm UTC (link)
well, thank you for the link :-)
may I ask you to contact me through e -mail? I have a feeling that there's more in this play ( a political saying - about the USA and UK politics, not about the politics here) then I think. or more then the tale of a young woman.
my mail is rkatriel@walla.co.il

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